I went to the NEC Autosport show today and saw the facelift 225 in a lovely flat blue thaat is a little darker than the clio flat blue, not many changes really very subtle but I like what they have done with the front also the rear lights I think are great!

Will post some pics in a bit!!!

good lad

Here goes

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Well I had to sample all the goods!!

Nice one Jamie!!! :D :D :D


Just what i wanted to see!!!!


When is the show on till??


We like it lads????

speak to jay mate he got all the info

Thats it now, i want one :lol:

nice aint it

ME toooooooooo :roll:



NEW ONE OR NOTHING FOR ME!!


Still love the old one but i wanna keep it for 3-4 years so i best go for a new one!

Thought you might say that. I think ill have to try and look at one of the F1's i think.

nice aint it


Same colour as my punto andy! :lol:

Show finished today!!!

I'm enjoying the last picture myself!

Still not happy with the front foggies either but apart from that, awesome

take a close look at the rear lights to, they are kinda raised in places

I'm enjoying the last picture myself!

Still not happy with the front foggies either but apart from that, awesome

Yeah I look great dont you think!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Show finished today!!!


Jamie its your fault! You said i best stay home with the other half as she was ill!! :lol: :lol:

take a close look at the rear lights to, they are kinda raised in places


I like them!

Show finished today!!!


Jamie its your fault! You said i best stay home with the other half as she was ill!! :lol: :lol:

I felt ill with all those girls wearing bugger all, I am an old man you know!! :wink:

Show finished today!!!


Jamie its your fault! You said i best stay home with the other half as she was ill!! :lol: :lol:

I felt ill with all those girls wearing bugger all, I am an old man you know!! :wink:


Ha ha ha :lol:

i must say from the front it does look rather tasty and the colour is the same as that pastel style blue they do on the 182 aint it

Check these out more photos robbed of the Renaultsport site

http://www.rapidpants.com/images/gallery/motors/2006/Autosport/

Does look nice.

Its a tad darker than the 182 flat colour but it does look the bollox, and so did the concept Cliosport as well!

Check out the wing mirrors!!!!!!


:P :P :P :P :P :P :P

http://www.rapidpants.com/images/gallery/motors/2006/Autosport/Autosport005.jpg

Yeah they were the same just grey plastic instead!

you sod was just posting that up. were they the same colour as the wheels, as i like those

Wheels looked the same as on yours mate, but could have been a shade darker!!

A girl walked past when I was looking at them, sorry!!!!

I spotted that as well.

I spotted that as well.

Did you, she was lovely :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:

you sod was just posting that up. were they the same colour as the wheels, as i like those

:lol: Sorry matey! Looks propper tasty!!

you sod was just posting that up. were they the same colour as the wheels, as i like those

:lol: Sorry matey! Looks propper tasty!!

He's slow as usual :lol: :lol: :shock:

Yeah I found that too Dave

They must have a card for this in clintons!


'Have a go at Andy Day!'


Poor Andy!

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We love him really

Did you get a chance to look at the interior? Has anything changed inside?

Think they kept it locked as its not been officially launched yet. Correct me jamie if im wrong.

The pics ive seen, its pretty minor stuff anyway.

No, the only bits that have changed are the bits I took photos of, everything else is exactly the same!!!

But with no rattles at the moment :lol:

Just when I viewed that video for the DCI version which may be coming out it had a pop up screen where the radio display was.

Yeah all the cars were locked up, even the Trophy racer that was there :cry:

But on the grapevine there might be a 320bhp 4wd Megane coming but not confrmed!!

Yeah all the cars were locked up, even the Trophy racer that was there :cry:

But on the grapevine there might be a 320bhp 4wd Megane coming but not confrmed!!


SSHHHHHH Don't tell andy, 320 bhp !!!!!!

Yeah all the cars were locked up, even the Trophy racer that was there :cry:

But on the grapevine there might be a 320bhp 4wd Megane coming but not confrmed!!


320bhp :P


Stop putting my car buying off track!!

I cant keep waiting! :lol:

I think you should just but mine Adam :roll:

The transit :-) Adam could use it to transport his quads :-)

The transit :-) Adam could use it to transport his quads :-)


Sorted! Lets do a transit 225 conversion?! :lol:

Yep, comes with coded radio and cup holder and a full MOT Guv`nor :wink:

Yep, comes with coded radio and cup holder and a full MOT Guv`nor :wink:

Sold! :P

Damn I am good, dont suppose you want the Blue peril for scientific purposes as well do you :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It aint that bad is it jamie?


Sell it and get a nice shiny new one like me!

No not really I must be honest but i need to find someone who knows what they are doing to put it right and that is proving very hard due to local incompetent renault techs!!!

It'll be ok in the end won't it!

Fingers crossed here for ya! :wink:

yeah it will mate, soon all the toys come out the pram and then "STAND BY RENAULT" :D

The colour looks good and those tail lights are nice as well.

I'm still not 100% on the front bumper though, looks a little smiley compared to the old one. Seems to have lost a little of the aggression.

I'll have to give it some aggression then! :lol:



I agree though!


Think it'll grow on me though!

Sounds like a plan mate haha.

320bhp :lol: :lol: :lol:

ill have sum of that

doesnt look as aggresive but it looks more classy and grown up i.e designed better rather than just a huge letterbox at the front

having just said that i still prefer the old one (just) i like the ott cave man styling of old one.

if there was a 4wd 320 bhp version it would extend the brand and this forum but i feel that would lose any point in owning the megane, at least what it has over the clio is build, comfort, refinement, straight line performance (just unless mapped) still resonable economy compared with other simular cars.

basically it would be nice but i wouldnt bother. a 225ps (220 break) wrx impreza does 27mpg at v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v best 30mpg on a steady motorway run just < 15mpg when caining. why ? .. because its permanent AWD so for me the compromise of the megane = great performance, great safety, pretty decent build and refinment, spec + decent economy and only grp17 insurance.

a 320 bhp 4wd megane would do 20mpg and be grp 20 insurance ? i would just buy a more accomplished more savage and ultimatley more hardcore EVO with better diffs, electronics, better steering, suspension etc.. the reno wouldnt come close even with big bhp and awd of its own, it would take years for reno to perfect a reliable system.
also reno`s are easy to service and cheap to service but poor service. can you imagine going to reno with a broken washer jet let alone a problem with your 4wd system, turbo or differentials ekkk :shock: reno`s just arent designed for that extreme power, even RS`s clutches cant take much extra power where as a VAG mobile (boring as they are) even the cheapest varaint the Seat, can take another simply massive 60lbft and 60bhp ! a reno usually manages half of that before clutch slipage or need for engine Gbox strenghning, a 320hp megane would not be like an evo or scoob where you add a full exhaust and see near 400bhp

still i hope they do it just for the crack.

I think your missing the point of a 320bhp megane, If you could afford the 30 grand + price tag fuel consumption is not even on the agenda. Its not really on the agenda for 225 owners as if you were that bothered you would still be driving a clio!

I think it would make a lot of sense. How many people on here considered a WRX before buying a megane but couldnt live with the image? Imagine and EVO FQ300 or scoob RB5 enclosed in a socially acceptable, 5 star safety shell. It would be awsome! There would be a lot of scope for a nice sleeper version like the normal megane now or a full on STI type bodykitted thing. Hmm maybe if renault are pulling out of F1 they might take the megane rallying?

I agree Jon I love everything about the Scooby and the Evos apart from seeing them, hearing them and most of all driving them!!

Bloody boring and have no character

I have the only 225 in my area for miles that I know of but there are hundreds of Evos, Scoobys and Skylines!!!!! They will all learn one day!!

You feel like a wombat turning up to a funeral in a scooby too!


Have the performance of a 225 but the class of a bmw.

Sorted :wink:

Meggerman,

Shoot me down if I'm wrong but surely Renault have the knowledge and expertise to create a Megane capable of 320BHp that works? They created the Trophy race car, all manners of formula single seaters etc - they have a history of motorsport - would they not have the technical knowhow and resources to create such a car? :?

most of the 225s engine and running gear parts are japanese anyway arnt they and 9 times out of 10 they last for ever, granted turbos blow and clutches slip and gear boxes go but they do on all cars, part of life and owning a car, bring on the 320 horses thats wat ill say. :D

My deposit is waitng and earning interest. No rush Renault :wink:

If renault did do a 4x4 they would probably use some nissan running gear from a 4x4 so engineering wouldnt be a massive problem

for the person that said running cost were not important i have to disagree. the megane 225bhp costs 16k from internet retailers a wrx impreza 220bhp costs 17k new.

a few differences.

wrx = grp 19 ins, 25mpg (usually Much less due to PERMANENT 4wd system)
megane grp 17 (same as 172cup) 32-35mpg (capable of more) (save £40 a month over a wrx impreza on average for me)

wrx more road tax than megane and higher servicing costs.

the cost of running on both evenly priced cars would probably equate to at least £1000-£1500 extra a year for the wrx over three years = £3000-£4500 so your paying a fair ammount more. this in tern also means higher road tax and servicing costs. only difference is the megane is safer and imo a nicer car.

running costs do count when you intial purchase point is £16k-£18k

as you rightly pointed out it doesnt matter on a £30,000 car as its so expensive in the first place but at £30,000 id most likely not choose a hatchback for transport when there are state of the art stylish and rock solid built with exellent residuals Audi A4 quattro S-lines kicking around with 250bhp turbo`s 2.0T FSI more tunable easily to 320hp also and 4wd quattro. etc..

in fact if you had £30,000 to spend it would probably be a high powered diesel awd company car. not many people spend that much on a weekend car or a fun french hatchback.

at £16k and more importantly in the future 90% of users on this forum who can finally own a larger Renosport to fit their requirements as the clio is either too old or too small will buy 2nd hand, part ex at around £12,000 and at that price insurance and economy certainly does matter. you dont buy a £12k ford focus with evo style 4k servicing and 16-8mpg purchase price shows that the owners of the megane (or nearly all of them) will also require decent economy, servicing, warenty package, and insurance.

dunno if you get what i mean but i tried to explain anyhow. i agree 50mpg diesel is what you want if you need complete economy but that shouldnt mean if you want a resonably priced performance car you should expect 5mpg either.

all imo

:D

hmm WRX is probably a closer benchmark for running costs than you think, mpg is similar ie 25 if your carefull, 10 if your not, 4wd will have barely any effect on fuel economy as its not all that much of a drain on a cars power, especially if you take into account that more of the power actually gets on the road more efficiently.

The only area where a WRX is going to cost you more is insurance for obvious reasons, the 225 costs less to insure than a clio 172 despite a higher insurance group. Also road tax would be the same as both cars are 2.0l

225s arent all that bad on fuel if you drive steady, its only 4 or 5 less than an RS clio. I was talking to a guy at the weekend who was getting 60 miles out of a tank in and EVO so that puts it in prespective. But really if your penny counting over fuel any 2.0 turbo car should be off your shortlist. Also consider you'll need a set of tyres every 8k, my car is gonna be needing full discs and pads all round with 14k on the clock, those sorts of running costs are a shock coming from a clio but one I'm luckily prepared for!

Jon - Take it you hammer the 225 a fair bit given the combination of your low mpg, high tyre wear and worn brake pads/discs :shock: How many track days have you done to need the brakes changing at 14k ish ? My car has 13k on the clock, the tyres still have 4mm of tread all round, my average mpg is 32-34 and the brakes are miles away from needing any attention. Think a combination of 80% motorway driving and a light ish right foot have helped me there :D

More pics from Dieppe factory of the F1 and revised 225 Here

1: http://www.rs-team.org/home/home.php?p=17

2: http://www.rs-team.org/home/home.php?p=16

yeah to be fair our car is all short journeys, hardly any motorway miles, only been on track once with it, when I'm in it I'm always either on the gas or on the brakes, tyres prolly have another 2-3k and same with brakes if I go steadyish, next tyre change will be its third set though!

3rd set :lol: , you must love the corners then mate or nail it every time on pull away

Boy Racers now days huh! :lol:

Just thought I'll mention that the Recaro seats on the new 225 are a £850 option. Only available on 3dr.

Here goes

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http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/JamieMcGinlay/Img0073.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c303/JamieMcGinlay/Img0101.jpg

Well I had to sample all the goods!!

If anyone knows, and I hope this hasn't come up earlier in the thread....can't face all the reading :O), is this the Ultra blue or Monako Blue????

Still have time to change my colour?!?!?

/Cheers

It is only available on the facelift model i believe, and it is a new colour that is slightly darker than the one that is similar on the Clio 182

I will try and find out the colour for you

Found it, it is Ultra Blue according to Renault

Hope that helps

Jamie

Thanks for that......I wonder what the monako blue looks like then???

might be like that dark blue on the f1 magane

Do they do a 5 door version of the F1?

may do, its only a sticker on it at the end of the day making it an F1 edition

might make some enquiries. I migth look at doing one of those 3 year things, hand the car back or get another one. Are they any good?

i think so, in bin on that plan for almost 10 years now, you basicly rent a new car from them every 2-3 years and give it back and get a new one.

Im looking at doing that as i don't want to keep a car for longer than 3 years. How much is it a month if you don't mind me asking?

i put no deposit down as that come out of the money from the old megane i had, payments on this one are over 5 years with no final payment at the end. £320 a month. ( this is based on the silver one i got which was the same as the blue one to)

Can you change it in 3 years if you wanted to?

thats exactly the same as me Andy

if you want yes, wat you do is take it in and they will give you a price of wat its worth, get a settlement figure on wat you owe put the two together.

so if they say the car is worth 10k and you owe 11k then its not good to sell unless you put 1k into the car wen you sell it or you put the 1k ontop of the new car you going to but.
or you keep the car for another couple of months till it comes to a level balance.

if they say 11k and you owe 10k you can put the 1k down as a deposit on the new car and start again on a new car.

i normally wait till there are both the same ie 10k -10k and chuck it back and start again on a new car but i alway make sure there is enough money in it for the deposit. so for almost 10 years iv had a new car every 2-3 years.

Do you have much of a deposit to put down?

I originally put down £2400 for my Clio 172 before and I didnt put anything down on Humpty

Do you have much of a deposit to put down?

normally around 100 -1000. 99% of the time i just put 100 in

Kool, i might look into it. Does it work out cheaper to do it that way or get a loan and sell it on after 3 years?

you might end up selling the car and still having to pay of the loan, if you take a 4 year finance term with rens then wen the car goes you know the loan will to.

personaly sod the loan.

do you own your one now

I own it now, but have got about £5K left to pay off the loan.

so say you chopped it in tomorow, ren would prob give you around 11-13k tops for it if you were very nice to them, so say they new 225 is 19k that would leave you around 6-7k to pay in 3 yrs and im 99% sure you might get that 0% as well.

so 7k 0% over 3 yrs would cost you £194 a month
6k 0% over 3 yrs is £166 a month

if not 0% then it will be 7k 3 yrs = £216 a month
6k 3 yrs = £189 a month

Kool, might go and have a chat with one of my old school friends who works at renault, see what he can do.

Do they do a 5 door version of the F1?

I am pretty sure they don't do a 5 door version of the F1. I say this because the Recaro option is only available for the 3 door. The hatch also has Leather seats as standard now, Xenon and heated seats is off the option list now so maybe they are standard?

Do they do a 5 door version of the F1?

I am pretty sure they don't do a 5 door version of the F1. I say this because the Recaro option is only available for the 3 door. The hatch also has Leather seats as standard now, Xenon and heated seats is off the option list now so maybe they are standard?

Ahh, i thought i saw on a link that they did a 5 door. Ill wait til it comes out and see what the options are.

the F1 mate will only be in a 3dr, there is a post on here somewhere with a few details on it

I think the almera look alike look awful.

Maybe it will look better in the flesh - but for now I'll stick with mine !

http://clabedan.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/renaultmeganef1f.jpg

nother interior shot