Whilst browsing on Renaultsport.co.uk i have seen that Craig225 has ordered a wait for it.............. Astra VXR!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: What is he doing.Is this news to everyone else or am i just not up to speed. :oops:

bit of a step down from a 350Z isnt it?

Why does he have one of those to

He posted it here when selling the wheels,good on him i say
they are nice cars!
no quicker thanthe megane though, i have been out in my brother in laws
gonna give him a race when i get mine back (leave him for dust! :lol: )

I'm coming to the conclusion the VXR range is all a bit tacky, vauxhalls always seem to look out of date about 2 months after they come out. I prefer the looks of the SRI version of the astra to the VXR too bit more subtle

Never liked Vauxhalls. :x From the Meriva to the Zafira they all use that same silver flat dash and center console. :( And they depreciate more than Renaults(if thats possible) :shock:

ahem... rather push a ford than drive a vauxhall....

lol

i wouldnt mind the noise of an ST in the 225 tho

Everyone has different tastes i guess.

Looks better than the F1 megane :lol:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSC00232.jpg

I actually like that, but then I drive a CC!!

I just thought I'd say it before anyone else got the chance. :D

Anybody seen a astra VXR on the road yet? There was one for sale in our local autotrader for a few weeks, the guy said it was an unwanted Max Power prize! Last i saw it was down to £18.5K!


P.S. Is Craig225 still a nobhead?

have seen a couple of red ones floating around by me, look nice in red to but would not ever entertain owning one!

ive seen quite a few a black one, blue one, red one. i like em and regal tuning have got one running 340 bhp with 350 ft/lb
. 19s as an option, bet the tyres arnt cheap and youd chew through a few running that power.

Well I have to say chaps I don't mind them, but like it showed on Top Gear the aint as fast as a Meggy round the track, and as for my moded 225 I will probably only ever get to see the front of one..............in my rear view mirror!!!!!!

I think they look quite nice. Not sure on the colour red though.

thing is... (here we go long post lol )

A golf GTI produces on BP ultimate proven a wrc rr`d for autocar a huge 250lbft STOCK and 212 bhp only 3 hp less than sunco race fuel :shock: this is a stock car with 50lbft more than claimed and 15hp more also , the vxr makes silly levels of torque when mapped a stage one regal tune brings 300lbft !!! our equivelent stage one on the 225 brings (a safe) 255lbft (same as a stock GTI on proper fuel) however ron 95 produces 207lbft so using decent fuel on these latest turbo cars is essencial. All modern Turbo pertrol hatch backs are producing loads of power over claimed figures as stock, the reason for this i belive is that Diesel has so much torque its starting to make petrol pointless and saloon diesels are embarassing porsches in gear for quick overtaknig moves. its a discreet way of levelling the playing field by having added petrol torque.

all new sportshatch backs will be featuring turbo`s just look at the range.. LCR 20v Turbo 225, ICR 180 20v turbo, megane 225, golft gti, astra vxr , new fabia petrol turbo etc.. all will with lastest 2.0 engines (i.e FSI 2.0T) produce STi levels of BHP and LBFT with better economy than the impreza`s thirsty flatfour.

basically what im saying is, the 280-300bhp + 280-300lbft power is now avalible to the masses by just spending £450 on a remap and without transmission loss of 4wd and decent kerb weight on the roll they are STi fast... but.. the key is they dont handle like STi`s, its alright putting 240bhp on an astra and mapping to 300hp but a fwd car with 19" wheels on isnt gonna handle like a 115bhp lotus elise is it.
secondly the argument for good enough handling + amazing straight line pace is where the megane comes in, it grips/handles faster than a vxr on track, faster than a golf gti on track and faster than a LCR and CTR, the megane has a better platform to start with although id think the Golf would with some fettling make a megane work hard.

still to top it all off the megane has a 1350kg kerbweight where as the golf in particular is 1450kg.

still the astra looks nice, the golf has a great interior + build and looks ok, the megane is funky looking is safe and has good handling and is cheap as chips.

dunno if i got my point across there ? but power isnt everything boosting a car with torque steer to ludicrous levels then making it worse by fitting 19`s wont win any track days.

Meggerman, ive got to stop laughing. I love the way you do research and write an essay on it. I bet your english teacher loved you at school !!!!

Keep up the good work !! :lol: :lol:

scary thing = i talk more than i write :shock:


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and i thought i wrote alot of ****!....... not saying you chat **** but thaty ou write alot!

and i thought i wrote alot of ****!....... not saying you chat **** but thaty ou write alot!

lol i just know so much about cars, i havent done any work for 4 years now almost constantly webbrowsed/read magazines and driven cars at work / home / test drives / days out etc.. im obsessed :oops:

sounds like me and computers.

Saw one today.......Flew past me, really shifting I had no chance of catching him. It was black,,,,I think!


















































OK, I was in economy mode, cruise control at 50!
Next time I'll give chase.

u should have gave chase. theres a black focus ST round barnsley aswell. cant wait to show him up

Did the focus ST yesterday! Had Major understeer on a roundabout, he deffo handled better! But I pulled away every time. From 3rd gear off a roundabout I got 4-5 car lenghts on him and had the speedo needle at 2-o-clock!

Still need better brakes though!

amusingly i had a 172 today in my hire car.

I got like a 1.6 normal clio (new shape one) I think he slowed down due to traffic......or was it the sheer amusement of a gay ass car up his ass.