: Eibachs are here



phil
21-01-2006, 15:51:21
Picked them up this am, looks like a challenge to fit them

just had a recce to see how things go, and i'll do it tomorrow :shock:

phil

asmith225
21-01-2006, 16:02:08
Sweet. Keep us posted

Jon Seal
21-01-2006, 16:52:01
phil any chance of taking some pics while your working and doing us a write up to put on the site? ;)

shinyautos.com
21-01-2006, 18:01:40
Mind your fingers mate when you take them off! :wink:


Hope it all goes well mate!

craigyR27
21-01-2006, 18:09:40
cool nice one mate be good to see ya car with them on

BlackRat250
21-01-2006, 18:12:37
Craig, welcome back :wink:

jasdigido
21-01-2006, 18:24:06
Any news on the true lowering height Phil ?

Cheers

Jas

phil
21-01-2006, 19:34:56
Any news on the true lowering height Phil ?

Cheers

Jas

Right i chatted to Dave he said the site states 25mm(eibach), but they advertise all their springs as to what drop they physically measure

for example some spax on a clio say 40mm but they have only dropped 20mm in reality

Jon, i will take pics then write it up afterwards probably at work on monday ha ha

Jon Seal
21-01-2006, 21:32:11
top man phil, look forward to seeing the results, this is my next mod as soon as I sort out funding!

phil
21-01-2006, 21:42:00
Got them for £155 with the discount, so cheers again for that!

Also saw the 19" wheels, he had them off the car look bloody huge!

andy bassett
22-01-2006, 00:29:00
they look huge wen they are not on the car but wen they are on they loose there hugeness. plus they do not suit the megane, scooby yes but wrong kinda style for the 225.

hope all goes well today wen lowering the motor

phil
22-01-2006, 08:51:18
they look huge wen they are not on the car but wen they are on they loose there hugeness. plus they do not suit the megane, scooby yes but wrong kinda style for the 225.

hope all goes well today wen lowering the motor

Cheers mate, fingers crossed :?

phil
22-01-2006, 12:34:43
Got the back end done, very easy just need my mate to get back as i need a torx bolt and impact driver for the disk to come off the front

here's a taster any way (back only)
how it should have left the factory!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSCF0637.jpg

asmith225
22-01-2006, 15:13:49
Could've washed it first mate :wink:

shinyautos.com
22-01-2006, 17:00:31
Looks good Phil!

phil
22-01-2006, 17:34:08
Could've washed it first mate :wink:

I did you cheaky bugger!

i drove to poole though and got it minging straight away

Well fronts have to wait till tomorrow, need a couple of tools and my mate had to go to southampton and its dark now :cry:

JamieMac
22-01-2006, 17:38:50
looks a lot better matey, love it

phil
22-01-2006, 17:43:24
Just need to do front now should look good when its done!

jasdigido
23-01-2006, 19:44:12
You done the fronts yet Phil hows it going ?

Cheers

Jas

denty225
23-01-2006, 21:42:28
Got the back end done, very easy just need my mate to get back as i need a torx bolt and impact driver for the disk to come off the front

here's a taster any way (back only)
how it should have left the factory!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSCF0637.jpg
Phil wots that rusty thing in the background?

shinyautos.com
23-01-2006, 21:44:32
Don't know mate looks like some old motor people use to store their old tyres in or someting...

denty225
23-01-2006, 21:48:43
Adam, I know what it is, you buggered my wind up!!

phil
23-01-2006, 22:59:50
Don't know mate looks like some old motor people use to store their old tyres in or someting...

Funny you should say that its got a crappy Khumo spare tyre off the renno, yes it is my italian stallion (lancia delta)

The fronts are done now i have just finished :D , it was a right pig of a job took 3 1/2 to do! Not bad as K-tec said 3hrs!

this is a must do on everyones list it has transformed the handling!

The steering now has feel to it, the wheel is a bit stiffer and you can feel what the wheels are doing, the ride isn't any harsher than original either as far as bumps etc

i'll do some pics tomorrow, i'm am knackered now tho'

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

shinyautos.com
23-01-2006, 23:27:25
Don't know mate looks like some old motor people use to store their old tyres in or someting...

Funny you should say that its got a crappy Khumo spare tyre off the renno, yes it is my italian stallion (lancia delta)

The fronts are done now i have just finished :D , it was a right pig of a job took 3 1/2 to do! Not bad as K-tec said 3hrs!

this is a must do on everyones list it has transformed the handling!

The steering now has feel to it, the wheel is a bit stiffer and you can feel what the wheels are doing, the ride isn't any harsher than original either as far as bumps etc

i'll do some pics tomorrow, i'm am knackered now tho'
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Phil!!!

I edited my post there cos denty was going to wind yuo up and i came out with its a lancia delta and blew the joke!

So i changed it to go along with the wind up but that went pete tong too!! :roll:


I love the old lancia's!!

How did you get on with welding the new archeds on it?

phil
24-01-2006, 08:00:39
Alot of work welding it up, theirs holes everywhere
here's an example of an easier bit!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSC00098.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSC00099.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSC00102.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSC00103.jpg

meggerman
24-01-2006, 09:38:04
whats the difference in ride height between a cup/trophy and a normal 225 ?

shinyautos.com
24-01-2006, 11:02:54
Blimey Phil!!!


Thats a decent bit of welding there mate!!

Getting there though mate, is yours the left hand drive one? Did they even do a rhd? :?


Looking good though mate!

Matmaxedout
24-01-2006, 11:34:17
adam, they never did a right hand drive as the norm, only conversions were done, but from what ive heard it took away some of the handling.

i loves those lancia's tooooooo

my 1st car was a delta, all be it was onlt the 1.5 (i was only 17) but it went like stink, used to beat those wannabe's in there XR3i's, :cry: :cry: just realised that i miss the old beauty :lol:

shinyautos.com
24-01-2006, 11:40:58
Yea i thought i'd only ever seen one or two rhd's..


Good motors though!!!

I used to like the yellow ones!! :oops:

phil
24-01-2006, 12:11:36
The right hand drive ones are either 1.3, 1.5 or 1.6
mine is the delta hf turbo ie 1.6 about 140bhp but weighs only 900kg
so eats fiesta rs's for breaky!

The left hookers are the hf 4wd, integrale or evo model, which have the flared arches

mine has normal arches(whats left of them anyway!)
that welding is about 5% of the total i have done it was like a sieve(spelling?)

Phil

shinyautos.com
24-01-2006, 12:15:12
The right hand drive ones are either 1.3, 1.5 or 1.6
mine is the delta hf turbo ie 1.6 about 140bhp but weighs only 900kg
so eats fiesta rs's for breaky!

The left hookers are the hf 4wd, integrale or evo model, which have the flared arches

mine has normal arches(whats left of them anyway!)
that welding is about 5% of the total i have done it was like a sieve(spelling?)

Phil

On the way to recovery though now eh!!

Good work Phil!

phil
24-01-2006, 12:22:20
Yeah she'll see the tarmac again one day!

here's a pic of the meggy now dropped look sweet should settle a bit aswell, it has transformed it totally!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSCF0646.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/Picture044.jpg

shinyautos.com
24-01-2006, 12:23:43
Thats sitting nice Phil, how did it go?

Matmaxedout
24-01-2006, 12:25:05
hiya phil, car looks sweet mate, do you have a b4 and after pic?? so we can see the differance.

phil
24-01-2006, 12:25:43
front has 235 tyres, and back has 225 which will fill it better aswell they going on this weekend!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSCF0647.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b323/philbainbridge/DSCF0648.jpg

jasdigido
24-01-2006, 12:30:11
Looks great
Hows it handle now ? much better i would think!
Got to get mine done asap

cheers

Jas

phil
24-01-2006, 12:32:37
It was the worst car to do ever!

i could have took the lancia engine out and back in quicker!
I was gonna do a guide if people want it, but i would strongly recommend you have a garage do it, i have stripped and rebuilt Mr2's, xr2's etc over the years but this car is a pig!

The whole lot has to be stripped, brakes, hub, driveshaft the lot!

The pictures don't do it justice its awsome in the flesh!

phil
24-01-2006, 12:35:40
Looks great
Hows it handle now ? much better i would think!
Got to get mine done asap

cheers

Jas

Far better the steering has feel to it and is stiffer, the brakes are better as theirs less play in the springs, its like a go-kart is my best explanation!

Well worth doing!its how it should have been done in the first place, if the cup/trophy is the same it must be a great drive!
A very pleased phil, no knuckles left but still smiling :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Matmaxedout
24-01-2006, 12:37:52
this is a pic of my cup phil, you can see the ride height is snug, and she corners like she's on rail's :D :D

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/matmaxedout/DSC01408.jpg

phil
24-01-2006, 12:39:41
Gorgeous mate gotta get some of those wheels!,the ride height is similar i think!

Forget going to renno for the cup parts just need some eibachs!

Matmaxedout
24-01-2006, 12:42:24
Gorgeous mate gotta get some of those wheels!,the ride height is similar i think!

Forget going to renno for the cup parts just need some eibachs!

cheers phil, but as for the wheels yep there great until you want to keep them clean, they seem to attract a different type of dirt!!!!!! than normal alloys???

meggerman
24-01-2006, 12:42:45
this is a pic of my cup phil, you can see the ride height is snug, and she corners like she's on rail's :D :D

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/matmaxedout/DSC01408.jpg



Is that a stock cup ??? how much lower is a cup compared with a normal 225 ?? presumably they are about 20mm lower with stiffer springs so the only way to improve the cup is not to fit springs but to fit the KW variant 3 Coilovers

Matmaxedout
24-01-2006, 12:46:00
yep, it's a cup, not sure how much the height is, would need to park next to a full fat and see, have to see when i get the chance.

phil
24-01-2006, 12:46:09
Yeah i guess so, the eibach's wont do anthing for the cup, the KW kit is fully adjustable for ride height!

clioGT
24-01-2006, 13:26:41
i bought.
you can see it in my pics.

jasdigido
24-01-2006, 13:35:23
Prey How were are they?

Topper225
24-01-2006, 19:33:16
Looks sweet mate looking to do mine soon , will be getting it done at the garage near me he said £60 to fit them leave it week and then check the tracking once it has settled proper ... If anyone has seen the Orange Clio with the Audi TT engine in it on Cliosport then it is his mate who will be lowering mine ...

phil
24-01-2006, 19:52:20
Thats cheap mate, does he know what he's letting himself in for?
get it in writing cos it will takehim 3 hours at least! :lol: :lol:

Topper225
24-01-2006, 20:08:33
Well if he can fit an Audi TT engine and gearbox into a Clio then i am sure he will sort it ... he said it though .. half the battle is being geared up for the job that is why i can't be bothered doing it myself ....

phil
24-01-2006, 20:27:24
Fair point! :lol: :lol:
takes a bit to figure out then once ones done the other sides easier cos you have learn't from your mistakeson the otherside!

Topper225
24-01-2006, 20:32:23
Well that is true , you would probably eat it in less than 3 hours now cause you know what you are doing .

phil
24-01-2006, 20:40:31
Well that is true , you would probably eat it in less than 3 hours now cause you know what you are doing .

Yeah probably, i'll start up my own Renno sport tuning shop in the South!
(and undercut K-tec, :lol: :lol: )
good idea of what to do when i leave the army!

Topper225
24-01-2006, 20:45:21
Well why not mate you can obviously do it . I don't do much anymore as i am " spannering" all week so i don't really fancy doing it at the weekend anymore ...

phil
24-01-2006, 20:54:02
Yeah don't blame you, i prefer to do it when i want, not when i have too or it loses it appeal!
probably why the lancia has taken ages to restore! :lol:

Topper225
24-01-2006, 20:57:43
Exactly i could get motivated for a project but not for the times when your sat having your tea and then she says "the car has been making a funny noise today " and then your out at 9 pm in the rain and cold trying to sort it out ...

phil
24-01-2006, 21:01:05
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah not the best time of year! i'll be a seasonal mechanic i think just work in the summer!

Topper225
24-01-2006, 21:04:23
So does it make a real big difference on the handling and that vague steering feel ...

phil
24-01-2006, 21:08:51
Definately mate, its like a new car
there are a lot of speed bumps on camp and if i take it slow as normal you feel no diffrence
But the steering wheel is more stiffer (not rock hard) and you can feel what the car is doing more, like the wheels are now actually connected!

It honestly feels like a go-kart like its on rails, i'm dead chuffed anyway

and the look is much improved aswell
phil

Topper225
24-01-2006, 21:30:30
Are these the springs that you got Phil ...

Eibach Springs

Category : Eibach Spring Kits

Sub-category : Eibach Springs - Renault

Application : Megane RS 2.0 T; 04.04> 25/25mm

Product Code: E-10-75-003-15-22

Details : Chassis M.
Lowering Front/Rear = 25mm/25mm
Axle Load: Front = 1060kg Rear = 930kg

Price: £142.96 inc VAT

Delivery: £9.00

phil
24-01-2006, 21:42:43
Yes thats them, they say 25mm but its more 30mm i think.
where did you find that listing? its the cheapest i've seen
Mine where £155 with discount and i collected them
phil

Topper225
24-01-2006, 21:45:03
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/frame-detail.asp?PAGE=/eibach-springs.htm

JoeA
26-01-2006, 20:14:16
Guys,

Does anyone know if the eibachs are the same springs that are used on the CUP?

If you follow this thread you'll see that the CUP runs eibachs with KYB shocks....

http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1908

phil
26-01-2006, 20:24:31
Must be why it runs so well then!

They are the best springs in my opinion, the ride has not been compramised at all, i went out tonight and drove it the same as usual and its like its on rails
so i drove it a bit harder round a corner the missus usually flaps at and she didn't even noticed, there is no body roll at all!
phil

Topper225
26-01-2006, 22:00:17
This will be my next mod ...

JoeA
27-01-2006, 06:15:50
Must be why it runs so well then!

They are the best springs in my opinion, the ride has not been compramised at all, i went out tonight and drove it the same as usual and its like its on rails
so i drove it a bit harder round a corner the missus usually flaps at and she didn't even noticed, there is no body roll at all!
phil

Mate,

You've talked me into it! Sounds like a must do mod....

phil
27-01-2006, 07:25:59
definately best £155 i've spent!

mike_d225
27-01-2006, 07:48:43
Phil,

Does it compromise the ride, thinking about this as my next mod but don't want a harsh ride.

andy bassett
27-01-2006, 08:06:06
dont think it will make it a harsh ride, just a slightly bit firmer and if im totaly honest you may not even feel the difference untill you put some weight in the car or your on a nasty bumpy road.
will make the handle better without a dout, will hold harder in bends with lower drag and give that feel of being on rails as they say :D

good mod to be done mate,

Craig225
27-01-2006, 12:08:03
I have had it done as well.

It can be a bit too firm if you are on a poor road.

Handling wise it has sorted the car right out. far more chuckable and corners with very little body roll.

Apparently (I think Jonseal stated this) is lower than the Cup/Trophy as well, so looks excellent too.

phil
29-01-2006, 21:49:21
Just been away for the weekend, and put some miles on the springs
I agree its a bit harsher on poor roads, but the handling far out ways this, as the handling is fantastic now
it now sits a bit lower as well with an extra 700 odd miles on it i ahve done

Jon Seal
29-01-2006, 22:11:55
I find the 225 pretty poor on bad roads anyway it doesnt half skip over some sufraces

phil
29-01-2006, 22:14:41
Yeah its not that much worse,just a bit more noticeable, worth doing tho'

i'll gets some more pics up once i clean it tomorrow its settled well is lower than a cup like you say i think the front is anyway!
phil

andy bassett
29-01-2006, 22:48:17
we shall put that to the test at the fcs, ill bring me tape :lol:

phil
30-01-2006, 08:08:03
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Whats the prize for the lowest motor then?
(and not half an hour with emily howard :oops: )

Emily Howard
30-01-2006, 09:50:13
How about 2 hours sweety :wink:

phil
30-01-2006, 15:39:08
Deal! :lol: :lol: :lol:

andy bassett
30-01-2006, 16:57:53
How about 2 hours sweety :wink:

dont you worry, 2 secs and you will be on your back alright :wink:

Emily Howard
30-01-2006, 17:08:56
How about 2 hours sweety :wink:

dont you worry, 2 secs and you will be on your back alright :wink:

Yum Yum Yum cant wait thats three dates :oops:

Andy
Phil
JamieMac

xxx Emily

ps thought you guys were straight have you finally given in :oops: