http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Renault-Megane-2.0T-Renaultsport-250/244208/

Interesting....all grown-up now eh?

Mature product with a more mature price.

Will the bloater cut the mustard on the track?

I didn't really understand the review. They didn't like the better interior or ride? Damn. Rip it all out.

hmmm so the megane has finally gone the same way as the 197/200 after the 182..

more refined, slightly less fun, but probably more competent and nicer to own...

audi S3 anyone?

hmmm so the megane has finally gone the same way as the 197/200 after the 182..

more refined, slightly less fun, but probably more competent and nicer to own...

audi S3 anyone?

I will take your S3 thanks :yes:

Surely the S3 is more 'refined' than the RS 250 will be....;)

No way at all for the price, its lost the fun factor

Does sound alot better built, just missing some of the R26's niggles?? sounds good to me (forgetting the price)

Surely the S3 is more 'refined' than the RS 250 will be....;)


yes definately...but its also a great car to "be in" and with a remap your up to about 310, get a haldex performance controller to shuffle power to the rear a bit faster and your in for a fun drive :)

S3 or Golf R20 for me. I bought the Megane for value before. But now I know the Golf and Audi will hold their price and the Megane will not. So the value option is the Golf or Audi. Fun factor will prob be similar for all.

By the spring Fabio you will be able to get 20% off the meg you wont with the audi or golf and the meg is a lot better and up to date looking imho mate

From the autocar review

"the same updated version of the venerable 2.0-litre turbocharged, four that has appeared in all previous hot Meganes."

What are the updates and will the "tunability" of the new model be limited just like the current ones?

unless they have changed the turbo IMHO surely you will just hit the same barrier at 290ish...

we'll see next Wed in Malaga :))

iirc the 250 has a different turbo and VVT. not sure what other things have been changed.

gustav, are you getting one to test mate?? will look forward to your views ;)

iirc the 250 has a different turbo and VVT. not sure what other things have been changed.

gustav, are you getting one to test mate?? will look forward to your views ;)

there's a press event in Malaga 28th, so i'll be there.. taking cameras and everything i can. can't wait. i'm having new GTi this week - would be good for comparison.

there's a press event in Malaga 28th, so i'll be there.. taking cameras and everything i can. can't wait. i'm having new GTi this week - would be good for comparison.

Great, I’m also coming in 28, maybe I see you, sorry pass you :shiny[1]:

Here is a short article I found listing the engine upgrades.

http://www.autotrader.co.nz/View/Article/2010-Renault-Megane-Renaultsport-revealed-in-detail/3633.aspx

Great, I’m also coming in 28, maybe I see you, sorry pass you :shiny[1]:

:) so send me some pics or something i can identify you then.. gustav@budinsky.sk ..

That review doesn't put me off the car at all.

I've also "grown up" in the 2.5 years I've owned my R26 so a slightly more refined car may suit me now also.

As long as it hasn't lost too much of it's fun side.

It seems strange that everyone moans about the build quality of Renaults and then as soon as they build a car built as well, or if not better than a Golf,it's too expensive.
If anyone can go and buy a Golf R20 with decent extras, cheaper than the Megane, I will be very surprised !
Surely Renault have deliberately built the new model to win over some of the Vw brigade.
If the quality is good and demand high,then resale values will also be good.
If not, don't sell your cars cheaply.

I was wondering this too Jay. People seem to be looking at the price of a new 250 fully specced up and saying they could have an S3 for that...........In reality any S3 you could buy for £24-25k is likely to be base spec so the two aren't comparable surely?

Also seems strange to me that people cite VW and Audi as the holy grail of reliability and build. The 6 Audi's and 3 VW's that my family have owned have been no more reliable than my last three RS's in reality (in fact worse in some cases).

I think that for folk that have bought a new or nearly-new Megane RS in the past for much less than £20K the prospect of having to pay well over £20K for the next one is a little disconcerting.

As someone who benefitted from the low residuals offered by the Megane RS I can sympathise, and TBH I hope the new model goes the same way.

I must admit maybe I look at it differently as resale values etc are much different in Germany.
For example I wouldn't sell my 2007 R26 for less than 22,000€ later and I've had someone offer 25,000€ for it,which is more than I paid for it new.
I had a new VW eos for a couple days in the summer and the build quality was terrible, I was very surprised.
My girlfriend has an older golf and I had a Passat for years and both had much better build quality.
A fully loaded Rs250 might cost just over 30,000€ here ,shopping around I bet I can get one for 26,000 with extras. A fully loaded R20 costs nearly 50,000€ and deals will be very hard to get.
Now that is a huge difference.
Once the car is out in th Uk and dealers are fighting for sales, I'm surethere will be some good deals around.
Add that to a few road tests where it does well against other hot hatches and it will sell well.

And a Audi S3 looks good - It looks like its got the 90's written all over it still!

Im sure the variable valve timing has given it that extra bit of power - probably the same turbo unit.

1387kg - hmmm, rear seats out with recaro's up front should bring that close to 1300kg's! .R pace then it seems with the extra 25bhp on top too

Talking of the S3, I read in performance VW that it's weight was up over 2000kg when tested - now THAT'S lardy!

I was wondering this too Jay. People seem to be looking at the price of a new 250 fully specced up and saying they could have an S3 for that...........In reality any S3 you could buy for £24-25k is likely to be base spec so the two aren't comparable surely?

Also seems strange to me that people cite VW and Audi as the holy grail of reliability and build. The 6 Audi's and 3 VW's that my family have owned have been no more reliable than my last three RS's in reality (in fact worse in some cases).

The S3 is £27k basic (I think) but has always been very high spec as standard - well it was when I looked at one 2 years ago. I have seen 10% discounts on both Audi and VWs. The problem is perception. Even if the Megane was better bulid quality only the people in the know would buy it. The mainstream will always go for the badge and hence why resale stays high for those cars. So as long as they are similar spec and all fun to drive I would still pay a few K more for the Golf or Audi. If Renault discount over 25% then it may sway me.

Talking of the S3, I read in performance VW that it's weight was up over 2000kg when tested - now THAT'S lardy!

must have had 4 fat birds in. 2 tonnes is totally wrong, you are looking at gross weight not kerb weight.

Kerb weight is 1455kg

BUT the same mag claimed it was over 600kg heavier tested than the GTI ED30 & Seat Leon Cupra....there's no avoiding that is there?

Perhaps they were wrong, that's a ludicrous amount.

2000kg? Just not possible, even on an option ladden example. They're a bit lardy but not that heavy!

My dads A6 All Road was just over the 2100kg mark on a weigh bridge so there's no way that an A3 can be nearly as heavy.

S3's kerb weight is 1455/1475kg (model variation), fully loaded 2015/2035kg......I just checked my brochure :o

Another article that also references Fords's RevoKnuckle suspension as used on the MK2 FRS, don't they mean Renaults' RevoKnuckle as now used by Ford??

BUT the same mag claimed it was over 600kg heavier tested than the GTI ED30 & Seat Leon Cupra....there's no avoiding that is there?

If you read that artical that i posted then it does say that it was 600kg heavier than both Cupra and ED 30 but at the bottom it does say 1455

Well best make their mind up then hadn't they?

It can't be 1455kg AND 600kg heavier than the GTI or Cupra can it?

is it not a typo and meant to be 60?

Dunno - according to an earlier post fully-loaded the S3 does indeed top 2000kg!

no the number above 2000kg is the maximum kerb weight, ie the weight of the vehicle passengers luggage etc cannot be above that number.