I'll soon need to change my pads and have been told that Pagids are good. I am currently running DS2500's.

Does anyone use Pagids at all, would appreciate any info.

Cheers

I use carbotec xp8s , their expensive but their awsome on road and track and never fade

road or track?

CL5+ are good (track only), just the discs dont like them :)

They fall off the backing plates. Avoid.

PF for me. For track only though

Well I use XP8s their meant for track which they are fantastic for having said that their also the best pad I've used in my R26 for the road as well

I've used RS29s, they're a great endurance pad and work perfectly from cold - 2 negative points I found:
1 - they are rock hard, virtually no modulation (you might think pad is incompressible but it's not).
2 - you may suffer pad pick up depending which discs you're using

They fall off the backing plates. Avoid.

bahn, you mean the RC5+ or ??

i wouldn't use the Ferodo's anymore - at least on track. they've melted on my rotors after half a day @track

bahn, you mean the RC5+ or ??

i wouldn't use the Ferodo's anymore - at least on track. they've melted on my rotors after half a day @track

dont you told me Gusto you melted them after 4days on track ?

they were about 4 days old in total. first three days haven't been that busy, but the last day - i was using them really hard under commandment of driving instructor and in the afternoon i've noticed those strange sounds while braking..

will be nice to see how long the OEM pads will survive with the same style :)

bahn, you mean the RC5+ or ??

i wouldn't use the Ferodo's anymore - at least on track. they've melted on my rotors after half a day @track

I'm referring to RC5+

I'm referring to RC5+

thats not nice to hear Kev as i have them on my wheels as well.. so far didn't have any problem though. just had to change to Castrol's SRF as they were boiling Motul's 660 constantly

will be nice to see how long the OEM pads will survive with the same style :)

1-2days it i recall correctly

I luv the CL5+ and grooved disc setup on mine.
After driving my TT RS for a while and then jumping in the Meg,it's the first thing you notice.The stopping power of the Meg is much better.

thats not nice to hear Kev as i have them on my wheels as well.. so far didn't have any problem though. just had to change to Castrol's SRF as they were boiling Motul's 660 constantly

I was not the first to report this. In fact I only concurred at the beginning of this month when I removed them early to replace with PF.

I was not the first to report this. In fact I only concurred at the beginning of this month when I removed them early to replace with PF.

and what pads from PF are you using? and what brake discs you have at the moment?
thanks for info Kevin, hope we'll meet @Geneva this year as usual ..

Yeah Ill be there. Doing some work with a Film crew!
Im running PF07's on the front and 01's rear. PF discs.No washers so fully floating.

Forget the rest get yourself a set of carbotec XP8s I've been through most of the decent makes and I'll stick with these now I've not had one bit of fade with them after 5 track days , like I say they get better and better as the day goes on

Ive never seen carbotech on a race car. PF on the other hand............

They fall off the backing plates. Avoid.

Fair enough this is a critical component but a rather sweeping statement. According to other users there was one bad batch which was recognised, it's not a general failing of the product is it?

film crew Kevin? what news? tell me more

Fair enough this is a critical component but a rather sweeping statement. According to other users there was one bad batch which was recognised, it's not a general failing of the product is it?

HI wouldn't call it a sweeping statement. How many people do we know that fitted them? And how many people had the problem? And considering we didn't all buy them at the same time, how big is this "batch".

film crew Kevin? what news? tell me more

It's just work. Nothing to write home about.

Yeah Ill be there. Doing some work with a Film crew!
Im running PF07's on the front and 01's rear. PF discs.No washers so fully floating.

wher do you get these from? i'm struggling to find them online. thanks

HI wouldn't call it a sweeping statement. How many people do we know that fitted them? And how many people had the problem? And considering we didn't all buy them at the same time, how big is this "batch".

Hello, honestly? I personally know of 3, all of which were replaced FOC as you would expect. No idea on batch size, I would expect the producer has systems in place to quantify it with start and finish points.
As for the not purchasing at the same time that might be explained by the supply chain. Were they all purchased from the same source? There's any number of explanations.
I'm not looking for an off topic crusade but the pads were by all accounts a good product until this one mistake, would be a pity for someone not to try a generally good product based on what should be a contained issue :)

wher do you get these from? i'm struggling to find them online. thanks

http://www.track-group.com/Renaultsport-Megane-Performance-Friction-Race-Pad-Set---Front-07-Compound-p154858.html

http://www.track-group.com/track-and-race-day-products-renaultsport-performance-b153176.html

I just wouldn't want someone to send money on something that 3/3 turned out to be substandard.

Don't avoid then. Ignore me. It's just my experience. Draw your own conclusions.

I just wouldn't want someone to send money on something that 3/3 turned out to be substandard.

Don't avoid then. Ignore me. It's just my experience. Draw your own conclusions.

I agree and informing people of our collective experience is great, that's what makes forums, after that only they should decide.
Most will not take the risk anyway so i'm sure no one needs to ignore you!

http://www.track-group.com/Renaultsport-Megane-Performance-Friction-Race-Pad-Set---Front-07-Compound-p154858.html

http://www.track-group.com/track-and-race-day-products-renaultsport-performance-b153176.html

many thanks

Speak to Stephen Docherty there. Good guy. I owe him lunch.

I went for the RC5+ after hearing all the horror stories about the pads removing them selves from the backing, pad surface braking up etc etc. They got put in end of summer so I havn't thrashed them round a track yet but for fast road I've no complaints. First time I slammed on the breaks the abs kicked in and I nearly shot out my seat.

Pads are good. I was just surprised to find them in 3 pieces when only half worn.

road or track?

Well Ideally it would be more for track as I use the car less during the week. I quite like the idea of changing the discs to something bigger, but I have heard mixed reviews and think I'll just go for a pad change at the moment as the discs are still ok.

Have you ever used Pagids Bahnstormer?

http://www.track-group.com/Renaultsport-Megane-Performance-Friction-Race-Pad-Set---Front-07-Compound-p154858.html

http://www.track-group.com/track-and-race-day-products-renaultsport-performance-b153176.html


Thanks ;)

Well Ideally it would be more for track as I use the car less during the week. I quite like the idea of changing the discs to something bigger, but I have heard mixed reviews and think I'll just go for a pad change at the moment as the discs are still ok.

Have you ever used Pagids Bahnstormer?
No. Though they're usually quite good. I found my setup now ;)

Hello, honestly? I personally know of 3, all of which were replaced FOC as you would expect. No idea on batch size, I would expect the producer has systems in place to quantify it with start and finish points.
As for the not purchasing at the same time that might be explained by the supply chain. Were they all purchased from the same source? There's any number of explanations.
I'm not looking for an off topic crusade but the pads were by all accounts a good product until this one mistake, would be a pity for someone not to try a generally good product based on what should be a contained issue :)



http://www.exiges.com/ubbz/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=163167&page=1

Not just us with the problem. Great pads until they fall to bits and IMO, once bitten, twice shy.

Must be many more failings but I only follow the megane and lotus sites.

http://www.exiges.com/ubbz/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=163167&page=1

Not just us with the problem. Great pads until they fall to bits and IMO, once bitten, twice shy.

Must be many more failings but I only follow the megane and lotus sites.

Ouch. Not a fan of the "not for road use therefore hard luck" response. Not the attitude to win in business is it. Tut, tut.
Time to steer clear?

Ouch. Not a fan of the "not for road use therefore hard luck" response. Not the attitude to win in business is it. Tut, tut.
Time to steer clear?

It is for me. I never thought to send them back so cost me front and rears which failed within a couple of hundred miles of each other. Shame as they where a great all rounder.

It is for me. I never thought to send them back so cost me front and rears which failed within a couple of hundred miles of each other. Shame as they where a great all rounder.

On exige.com there's a bit of positive news that the supplier and in turn the manufacturer paid a refund and showed concern. I wonder if this was ever confirmed as a closed issue?
Same failures seen on vx220 site too.

On exige.com there's a bit of positive news that the supplier and in turn the manufacturer paid a refund and showed concern. I wonder if this was ever confirmed and the cause identified and rectified?
Same issues seen on vx220 site too.

Yeh I saw that but no news of a conclusion.

So what I said seems fair?

Seems so, I like to fish for a more rounded perspective.

So what I said seems fair?

For me and you I would say it's more than fair. Others can take the gamble if they wish as we can only point out our experiences using cl pads. We both agree they where great pads until the failings.

Matt / Kev, - can I ask, what are the specs of your fronts (have you upgraded the rears also?)

btw - I'm doing Bedford Sat 18/2 & Spa 15/4

Matt / Kev, - can I ask, what are the specs of your fronts (have you upgraded the rears also?)

btw - I'm doing Bedford Sat 18/2 & Spa 15/4

Not sure sure I should tell you if you're thinking about selling up already?? (joke)

Is Spa £340?

lol....I'm not sure I want to sell tbh......I have been mulling over buying an X-Bow with a mate (that's 2 of us buying the car, not a car that comes with a "mate")

Yes, Spa is £340(ish) - Gold Track

I have used the pagid rs5's for over 2 years now, never felt the need to change been so impressed with them. I ran the ds2500s before and wasn't impressed.

I use PF07's and PF01's on the rear. Im not telling you anymore if you're selling. Xbow's are ****e and cold and miserable.

I have used the pagid rs5's for over 2 years now, never felt the need to change been so impressed with them. I ran the ds2500s before and wasn't impressed.

ds3000 are somert else totally different feel to the 2500's ive started using 2500's on the back with the 3000's up front really happy with them never been able to fault ferodo pads

I have used the pagid rs5's for over 2 years now, never felt the need to change been so impressed with them. I ran the ds2500s before and wasn't impressed.

I like the idea of using pagids, and from what I heard they are mega but pricey. Ive been looking at Rs29's but are very pricey, I too didn't think the DS2500 were that good!

Ive just noticed this thread - ive actually posted about the CL's in another section on here before reading - I'm obviously quite disappointed to read this now!! I think i will take the advice of Bahnstormer and try the PF pads.
One quick question - what are the best discs to marry these pads with?? And any other suggestions/advice on brake upgrades?? i.e.. what is best fluid to put in and are braided hoses essential to do as well??

PF Discs.

Thanks Bahn. Apologies if ive duplicated in my own post! Will give this a try as and when required.

Out of interest - has anyone with an R26R tried an AP set up? AP callipers etc? Are they available for the R26R?

Thanks Bahn. Apologies if ive duplicated in my own post! Will give this a try as and when required.

Out of interest - has anyone with an R26R tried an AP set up? AP callipers etc? Are they available for the R26R?

For the Meg the PF discs are a better choice.

AP calipers? Not required. The OEM 4 pots do a good job and if you went for a caliper torque upgrade as well as the 330mm discs you would end up with a very large front braking bias shift. Not good. You do need to keep and eye on the F/R braking balance.

The rear discs have integral bearings and are not easily upgraded. Same with the rear caliper + integral handbrake.

For the Meg the PF discs are a better choice.



Why's that please?

Because AP discs are cheese.

Because AP discs are cheese.

Good. Have you ever run any on a Megane?

Nope I learnt my lesson on a previous car and moved to PF then too (first time at the time).

Nope I learnt my lesson on a previous car and moved to PF then too (first time at the time).

OK, which pads did you use on the previous car with the cheesey discs?

Why's that please?

As per Bahns answer. The APs are OK but you get more life out of the PFs for similar usage/same pad.

[QUOTE=conley;624521]For the Meg the PF discs are a better choice

I thought the pf discs only come in 330mm and this would upset the braking balance of the car?

[QUOTE=conley;624521]For the Meg the PF discs are a better choice

I thought the pf discs only come in 330mm and this would upset the braking balance of the car?

Correct, but the original question was based on a comparison between PF and AP discs.

So, I'm gauging then that the most popular choice would be PF discs and pads all round?? Then braided lines and racing fluid and you're set, yes?

So, I'm gauging then that the most popular choice would be PF discs and pads all round?? Then braided lines and racing fluid and you're set, yes?

There is no popular choice. If you detail what you are looking to use the R26R for, how you drive and what you expect circuit wise, then there will be some good advice and experience floating about.

Well, now that i officially own my own R26.R (Number 014) its worth mentioning that it is purely for track days and maybe the odd blast out on a sunny Sunday. The CL pads and KTR discs seemed pretty impressive to me on the drive home but my first track day will be all telling i guess. Thanks for the help and advice Conley and Bahn.