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How much would a set of Eibachs cost for the 225. Just ordered mine from buy my new car and am thinking of lowering it and uprated the suspension. Just wopnderedc how much this will cost and the best place to get them from

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I have ordered the FULL FAT 5 Dr 225 and was unsure of the cup pack as it may have made it to hard. However I have a BMW with Sports suspension at present and that is hard (Yes I am a BMW driver at present I have seen the other posts) and I can put up with that.

As long as the suspension is not rock hard I am sure my family (2 small children) would be able to put up with it. I would also like the car a little lower than stock full fat.

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well the cup pack is basically a set of eibachs with cross drilled brakes, as I found out today the brakes are more expensive to retro fit so you might be better of getting the cup pack
 

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well the cup pack is basically a set of eibachs with cross drilled brakes, as I found out today the brakes are more expensive to retro fit so you might be better of getting the cup pack
Jon elaborate on the brakes thing please.
 

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all the discs on a cup are drilled as to being solid,see pic below

and if you getting a full fat but are thinking of lowering it why bother, your going to end up with the same ride quality as a megane with the cup pack on, plus you get better brakes wheels and its lowered already.

so your not going to gain anything on the hard ride front.



 

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of course, im not disputing that, i just cant see why you would want to lower a full fat cos a cup suspension might be to hard a ride yet it will end up the same as a cup wen its done.

hay im not saying dont do it, but by the time you have bought the extra springs paid to have them fitted and bought the discs and fitting again, you might as well go for the cup pack and get the other few goddies that go with it ( wheels, bigger tyres, drilled discs, lowered suspension ) for the sake of a few extra pennies

but like i say evrey time, each to there own :p
 

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My understanding was that the dampers were also uprated on the full fat. I have also been told that the rubber bushes are replced for a stiffer nylon type of bush. I remember doing this to one of my other cars and every little bump on the road was felt through the steering wheel, it was so bad that a piut hole could rip the steering out of your hands.
I have also seen mentioned that the uprated breaks can be hard to deal with for in town driving and tend to grab to much.

I would like the cup pack but my concerns are that it will be a little to harsh for everday use, I have a small family and have to consider the little ones as well as being able to fling the car into corners when out on my own. The car has been ordered but I keep thinking that I should have gone for the cup back but have not for the above reasons
Thats why I thought that the uprated springs would be agood compromise.

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I have fitted the springs and it is stiffer but not over the top, the kids or the missus don't seem to mind either.
i have the disks ready to fit so i cant comment on them yet i'm getting the most out of the originals first well until the weekend anyway!
The biting of the brakes around town is probably due to the larger Master brake cylinder aswell!
Not heard anything about the bushes being changed though!
 

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I have the Eibachs and the ride quality is awesome. No crashing and banging like some other aftermarket lowering kits. From press reports the Cup is definately a harsher ride than the standard full fat, the full fat with eibachs sits somewhere between the 2 i.e. the best of both worlds :D Not sure why you'd want the x drilled discs unless you intend going to regular track sessions. I have no problems with my standard discs and Brembos.
 

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the full fat 225 and the trophy/cup all have the same dampers the only difference is the springs (which eibach make) They must be a popular mod as I ordered a set last week to get fitted this weekend and they are out of stock everywhere! Have mine on back order with eibach uk not due in for 2-3 weeks
 

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Doc883 said:
I have the Eibachs and the ride quality is awesome. No crashing and banging like some other aftermarket lowering kits. From press reports the Cup is definately a harsher ride than the standard full fat, the full fat with eibachs sits somewhere between the 2 i.e. the best of both worlds :D Not sure why you'd want the x drilled discs unless you intend going to regular track sessions. I have no problems with my standard discs and Brembos.
1. They look better
2. They needed changing anyway
3. They where cheaper!

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Good points Phil, suppose if you needed new discs then why not :D

Jon - The Trophy/Cup have quote "Re-tuned damper settings all round" to the Full Fat so don't think by simply adding Eibachs we are fully replicating the Trophy/Cup setup :?:
 

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No, i heard they had KYB markings on them!
unless the full fat uses KYB's?
 

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Doc883 said:
Good points Phil, suppose if you needed new discs then why not :D

Jon - The Trophy/Cup have quote "Re-tuned damper settings all round" to the Full Fat so don't think by simply adding Eibachs we are fully replicating the Trophy/Cup setup :?:
Bit naughty that on some of the renault press stuff it says "stiffer springs" on others like you say it says "revised damping" same part number though for dampers on all 225s..........
 
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