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Today I took my 225 meggy to my Dixon Huddersfield Renault stealer. I took the list below nicely printed in Times New Roman 14. Lets see to how many of the faults the respond "Computer Says No..."

1. Over sensitive throttle pedal from idle: It makes declutching from 1st gear quite difficult (it over-revs too easily) It seems that the engine revs disproportionately in relation to the throttle pedal travel. You end up burning the clutch to get moving smoothly. The car has suffered from this since new but I assumed it was a ‘design flaw’ until I drove two other 225’s without the problem.

2. Hesitation under hard acceleration: On a recent trip to the coast I had to pull over to the hard shoulder. In order not to disrupt the traffic when coming out again, I had to accelerate quite quickly. At around 5000rpms in 1st the car stuttered and then continued to accelerate. After that incident, the ‘Check Engine’ icon lit up for the rest of the journey.

3. Rattle coming from underneath the front: I have brought the car to your garage before to sort this out but without luck. I was told that even though you could ‘hear’ the noise, you could not locate it and I should bring it back if it did not go away. It hasn’t. It is not a heavy ‘clonking’ type noise when braking or steering but more of a light rattle when driving over rough surfaces such as broken roads or cobble stones. I cannot tell if it comes from the suspension or brake assembly but it seems to come from the front end of the car. Need to listen to it with the windows open. Go to the St. Andrews Road car park (Behind Sainsbury’s), it has a cobble stone path right from the entrance.

4. The ‘Auto’ function on the climate control unit does not seem to respond properly: In cold mornings (0 – 5 degrees Celsius outside) I set the unit to max temperature in ‘Auto’ mode but it does not blow any air (neither hot nor cold) from any of the vents. Same thing in warmer days, when the unit is set to a cold temperature (15 degrees for example) and in Auto mode, no air seems to come out neither from the windscreen, dashboard or lower vents. Only when I turn up the fan speed manually (and the fan icon appears and the AUTO icon disappears) is that I get warm (or cool) air blowing through the vents

5. Front right tyre looses pressure

If any of you can "relate" to these problems... Feel free to share the luv... :roll:
 
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Mine is in at for number 3 :- I have been told it is subframe bolts need tightening but we will see :)
 
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Topper225 said:
Mine is in at for number 3 :- I have been told it is subframe bolts need tightening but we will see :)
It does sound a tinny rattle... not as heavy as "loose subframe" but Im not the best person to say... Could you describe the type of rattle/noise you had?
 

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mine went in over 15 times for that poxy rattle and they never sorted it, made them take the car back in the end and get me another one, but alot of people seem to have had it sorted out,

as for the auto button iv never used it, only use the AC or normal fan.

as for pulling away in first mine can be a bit jerky at times and you do need to clutch it a bit to stop it.

and for hard acceleration mine loves it :wink:
 

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Alonso225 said:
Topper225 said:
Mine is in at for number 3 :- I have been told it is subframe bolts need tightening but we will see :)
It does sound a tinny rattle... not as heavy as "loose subframe" but Im not the best person to say... Could you describe the type of rattle/noise you had?
99% its the bolt matey, more of a metalic noise as mine was, like a stone or small bolt stuck in the suspension some where.
 
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andy bassett said:
mine went in over 15 times for that poxy rattle and they never sorted it, made them take the car back in the end:
Ill see tomorrow what they say... (which will be close to Jack Sh*t) ... Today the guy in charge of liasing with customers said "Ill check with other garages to see if they have encountered a similar problem"... which im pretty convinced that after 2 weeks and 23 phone calls from me will be "nobody has heard of that fault"... After that will be letter to Renault Customer Services with copy to General Manager....

Any suggestions?
 

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they told me wen they were doing mine and i quote " until other dealerships report the same problem with a tech report being sent of there is not alot we can do, we have changed your springs shocks anti roll bar stearing rack front discs callipers two new centre cap on alloys the list and we still cant find where its coming from"

that how helpful they were for me, not very.
 
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andy bassett said:
as for pulling away in first mine can be a bit jerky at times and you do need to clutch it a bit to stop it.
I forgot to add... Computer did say Yes re. They have ordered a "Coil Set" of course.. .when I asked what was that causing, their answer was "everything"...

What really pisses me off is that they put a mindless gits between customers and mechanics. These "workshop liason offices" dont know jack sh*t about cars.. They just mindlessly read lists of notes left by mechanics regarding faults... And when you press them a little bit into giving sensible answers they just come out with the most absurd responses...
 
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Alonso225 said:
4. The ‘Auto’ function on the climate control unit does not seem to respond properly: In cold mornings (0 – 5 degrees Celsius outside) I set the unit to max temperature in ‘Auto’ mode but it does not blow any air (neither hot nor cold) from any of the vents. Same thing in warmer days, when the unit is set to a cold temperature (15 degrees for example) and in Auto mode, no air seems to come out neither from the windscreen, dashboard or lower vents. Only when I turn up the fan speed manually (and the fan icon appears and the AUTO icon disappears) is that I get warm (or cool) air blowing through the vents
When the difference between outside and inside is very high, the auto function doesn't start the fans immediately, but waits that the air can be blow at an appropriate temperature.

Ex: When outside temp is –5 and you set right away at 27, it is absolutely normal that it will start to blow air at –5 (as the car and system didn’t warm). So the auto function waits until the air can be pulled with ~27 (for my car it’s about 3-5 min). Same thing at higher outside and lower inside, it waits until the air passes through Freon (or CFC) and gets colder.
 
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Blue Angel said:
Alonso225 said:
When the difference between outside and inside is very high, the auto function doesn't start the fans immediately, but waits that the air can be blow at an appropriate temperature.
Why? Why Why??? Could the garage not give me such a simple and clear answer like yours Blue Angel? Dont they know it? Do they care? They just said (literally) "Computer says (nothing wrong). If I went to the trouble of writing such a detailed explanation it means that I care! Why cant they care too and go the extra "millimitre" and explain it as you did!

:oops: I apologize for the ranting.... but its frustrating...

Thank God this forum exists and people like us are here.... :wink:
 

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renault technicians

My oldest is half way through a 3 1/2 year 'apprenticeship' with Renault. At the end he'll know how to change spark plugs and plug in the diagnostics. And bugger all else.
This is not unique to Renault. A friend teaches motor mechanics at technical college. He says that the kids that finish their apprenticeships with all the major manufacturere and brandish their NVQ3 certificates have to start again when learning about real life mechanicing.
Once the Migraine is past its warranty I'll not use a franchise dealer, if I haven't sold the heap before then. Instead I'll find an independent renault specialist. Half the hourly rate but twice the expertise. What a shame every new car is tied to the franchised network for warranty claims.

Chris. Full fat 225, glass roof, curbed alloys, paint chips on both B pillars, new axle, free new rear tyres, new front discs, new coils, new injectors, 3 new door handles, new engine cover, new front brake calipers, failed (and returned) CD changer, more fuses and bulbs in 16 months (OK 40k miles) than all my other cars put together over the last 31 years (Yes I am that old!)

ps car is in again tomorrow - indicators on one side have failed. Bulbs are fine, they dont blink and the flasher on the dash board goes mad after two blinks. When I called I was told 'its a known fault'. Refreshing change of attitude from the dealer, sad case of affairs for the Migraine.
 

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chrisfell said:
ps car is in again tomorrow - indicators on one side have failed. Bulbs are fine, they dont blink and the flasher on the dash board goes mad after two blinks. When I called I was told 'its a known fault'.

It is a known fault...they need to replace the whole headlight unit as there is a fault connector. Ive had this done already myself.
 
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This has to be the first line ive ever heard....

The garage rang saying that the technician says that its the front suspension top mounts whats causing the rattles (12m)

They ring 10 minutes ago (4.30pm) saying "There's a problem with the car. They cant change the top mounts cause 'theyve never done it before and therefore do not have the right tool'....

I nearly laughed my ass off.... The right tool????

a.- The changed the mounts and realized (as expected) that they werent the source of the problem and they're still looking
b.- They havent changed the mounts and need more time
c.- The crashed the car while listening to the rattle
 
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