you got the balls to say it i never :wink: but i 100% agree, i was unsure on the facelift but now iv looked at the F1 over a few times its not some thing i would look at trading mine in for, ( not likeing the happy front and the brighter dash) but each to there own. and if you got a silver 225 then all the better as they not doing silver any more. but knowing renault that will change.